The Beginning After The End (Web Novel)

where can I read it

500 tbate chapters= 1000 lotm chapters

It has been released already; you'll have to wait for the admin to upload it if you want to read it here.

Where else I could read ? I tried looking but all others are stopped at ch 465

I apologize, but sharing links/names to other novel websites is against the rules here. Doing so could result in a ban.

wym -1 level?

He's just annoyed with Tess and now is creating dumb reasons now. . . Lets clarify him that Arthur was never a true monarch/Dictator/king in the first place, his dumb brain forgot that Arthur was just a duelist elected in the name of King by a council, as duels were used as a solution of conflicts in ki world. He was not a kind of King that enforced his way to the top and had full dictatorship over his country like these people . Napoleon Mao Benito Stalin H*tl*r (is H*tl*r a slang, 🤣) Julius Ceaser . As a duelist and an acting king ,Arthur completely justifies his character. And how does this guy expects Arthur to act like a king, arrogance without power is stupidity and right now Arthur can not directly face Indra/Argona .Acting like an emotionless coot whithout trusting allies will make him not worse than Indra and Argona. Deep inside this guy wants to hate Tbate and is unconsciously creating dumb reasons . . F*ck him in the *ss. He has read too overpowered mc novels

Doesn't Arthur directly say he waged a pointless questionable war (against the people that took Cecil) as king that directly caused the death of millions?

yooooo what? :0, bro are you currently suffering from a migraine? what is up with all of this unnecessary anger right now? First off, I want Arthur to act with dignity, like a king would have. I don't like reading crybaby protagonist. I feel like I made that pretty clear. I never said anything about him needing to be arrogant or prideful, just not like a little kid for the entire series. Second off, I have never once mentioned tess throughout ANY of my responses, that has to be a Freudian Slip of what you think of her. Yes its been said ten times by now that he isn't a king by birthright and I have acknowledged that multiple times already by saying that either way a king should naturally have dignity. "f*ck him in the *ss he has read too many overpowered mc novels" what did i do to deserve this energy right now, and what does reading op mc novels have to do with this, I don't even like those. Finally, never did I say I hated this novel, its mid. There is a difference.

Well it is surprising that you didn't dislike my comment or fell for provocation. I wrote this cuz at a point it bacame fun arguing with you idk that I wanted to say "f*ck em in the *ss" But I'll say this "Our perspective don't align" which seems normal. Lets end this argument with we both admitting defeat that we couldn't persuade each other 🤝 and act like thorfinn .

stop bullshitting your bipolar tw*nk

So you finally started showing your true colours. For once I thought you were sensible runt There is no limit to your dumbness, you said he shouldn't care for his parents(so dumb), then maybe he shouldn't care about Ellie, Tess, Regis, Sylphy and anyone. Maybe he should become something like Argona and pursue power, if that's what you want then you should read a novel called "reverned insanity" not TBATE. You d*mb*ss runt, still have the gall to TO REPLY TO EVERY COMMENT AND JUSTIFY YOUR Foolishness AND COMPARING NOVELS TO MANGA/ANIME/MOVIES AND SAYING PEOPLE WHO WATCH MOVIES ARE MORE SENSIBLE THAN NOVEL READERS, YOU DUMB GUY WITH A FETISH FOR FEMALE BABOONS WITH BAD Eyesight SAYING THAT MY PFP IS GOJO AND STILL THINKING YOU ARE LOGICAL AFTER GETTING 15 SLAP DISLIKES AND STILL HAVING PRIDE TO THINK YOURSELF SENSIBLE, THERE ARE TWO KIND OF PEOPLE WHO READ RI, ONE WHO LIKE FY AS A CHARACTER AND OTHERS LIKE YOU WHO WORSHIP FY AS A GOD AND SAY EVERYONE MC SHOULD BE LIKE FY OR ELSE THEY ..

I Knew your *ss was trolling when you said you weren't actually angry and you were trying to rage bait me. God does it feel good to be right. When I replied to Fizonel I said "you have a Gojo PFP," I wasnt saying you had one. I was telling Fizonel that. That's why I quoted it when i said it the second time :/ The 15 people who gave me dislikes are the same 15 people who like this novel so I REALLY don't care what they think. There are SOME Mc's that get a pass despite not being an adult mentally, and a generic Isekai magic novel protagonist, guess what? is not one of them. Saying you shouldn't compare Novels to other forms of entertainment is like saying you shouldn't compare art to reality, we would still be drawing 2d figures if that were true. I never said Movie watchers were smarter, I said more TYPES of people watch movies therefore movie opinions are less biased and can be considered common sense. God you are annoying.

You d*ck, I'm baiting you and you are still rationalising your actions. I'm tired it this you baboon, you won congrats. Lets end this, cuz imma not argue with you on the weekends

What are you on about, besides Agrona I don't remember a single person call him King Grey and he has to "act" like a king because he is a Lance. And from what I HAVE BEEN READING THERE HASN'T BEEN A SINGLE PART WHERE HE IS ACTING LIKE A TODDLER. If you could give an example on the later chapters on how he is acting like a toddler then I would very much appreciate it but from what I am seeing and comprehending he is making decisions that a toddler mindset shouldn't be able to do he knows he is the biggest advantage to beating Agrona so he is in a place where no one knows besides Agrona and Cecilia now to try to get the key to fate. He knows the consequences like losing a friend like he just did not even 10 chapters ago she was part of the Twin Horns, for got her first name but her last name was Rose

when he told his parents he was from a different world and got reincarnated, he started crying and stuff, and it was so cringe because there is literally no reason to give a sh*t about his parents. Also there's a bunch of times where he could have just thugged it out and didnt.

Dude, I understand your first part but you're replying to the wrong guy with your second part. But sadly, your first part is also full of mistakes. He has to 'act' like a king because he was a lance? Dude, where did you read that stuff? It's never mentioned in the novel or even in my comment. And I remind you that he never intended to act like one. It's just that his charisma of being a king in his previous life has left a bit inside him because he can't erase it; it just works like an instinct. Those who actually know what the dignity and demeanor of a king are will only notice the subtle difference in his subconscious acts, and this was what was mentioned in the novel. As for calling him 'King Grey', they never regarded him as a king, just called it. So, you can ignore that part.

I'm starting to get really tired of defending one sentence of my entire argument that people clearly love targeting because they cant find anything substantial against anything else I have said. When I said I wished he acted like a king, all I meant was that he actually had some level of dignity and acted like a sophisticated adult. Hell even if he acted like a foot soldier throughout this novel, it would still be better.

It's in the last couple of chapters when we find out another one of the Twin Horns died at The Wall when we had Jasmines POV and I'm talking bout how only Agrona and Cecil only know where Arthur is due to the relic Agrona has, my bad for talking to the wrong one I gotta say this comment section is really confusing sometimes

It's a bit chaotic around here, so it's understandable. And it's truly heartbreaking when Rose passes away, and now Agrona is closing in on Arthur, who may not even have much Aether left to defend himself.

Do you know what a simile is?

I didn't read your comment all the way, and said something unnecessary regarding what you commented, I deleted that comment now.

You are the one who has failed to understand TBATE as a whole, you yourself admit to all of its failings, yet continue to believe that it deserves anywhere near a 4.9, due to a few factors. Even those factors, I find most to be lacking as well. Nice of you to assume that I gave a partial effort in understanding this novel. Him vowing to live a normal life means absolutely nothing, because he breaks that vow 30 chs in, and his demeanor as a king disappeared or never existed to begin with. I would have enjoyed this if that were true. When I said acts like a toddler, I was referring to him crying all over the place and getting his emotions twisted over lazily written characters that I haven't been given a reason to care for. Considering this novel as a Masterpiece is a drastic over rate of its quality, In case everything else I said didn't stick, you should know that a Masterpiece HAS to take very little from conventional tropes, while educing the intended emotion, This doesnt do that

Firstly, I understand Tbate very well—what it's lacking and what not. I never said it deserves 4.9; rather, it was at one time, and it went down mostly because of a certain character. I'm sure you understand how psychology works when people rate a novel out of 5. This novel is strictly not below 4 if you really like isekai fantasies. Either people give it a 4 or 5 if they really liked it. And there's your answer to why the rating is so high. And you find those 'factors' lacking because your standard is abnormally high. At this rate, I'm afraid, there aren't many fantasies like this that will be able to entertain you. Secondly, I have already explained it. You totally missed that part or failed to understand. Your expectation was never intended to be delivered explicitly. Thirdly, there were indeed a few occasions like that, but choosing the word 'toddler' lacks what you're actually trying to mean. Finally, 'masterpiece' is a subjective term. So, I won't argue with that part.

My standards aren't "abnormally high" because nothing satisfies me, its simply due to seeing better things. I have a deep understanding of what something that is definitively good looks like. Simply put, there are many things that trump this novel in every way and in every angle. You have a gojo pfp, im sure we both could agree that if jjk was a 5/5 this would be a 3.5/5, there is a massive distinction between these two pieces of fiction in terms of world building, power systems, character writing, character development and fight scenes in general. Jjk manages tension and creates genuinely interesting characters. Even more so if you read the manga, so isnt it obvious that we cannot put these two things on the same level. Jjk isnt my favorite anime im just using it as an example. I believe that if something is an isekai, its maximum rating is 4/5.

Okay, I see where you're coming from now. Thanks for clarifying. It's definitely tough to find that same level of excitement after diving into peak fiction. I've encountered a similar situation after finishing Dan Brown's work. Anything less felt underwhelming for a while. JJK is also one of my favorites and it truly stands out, but it wouldn't be fair to compare it directly with Tbate. They're different genres—one is dark, the other isn't—but JJK will likely maintain an edge over Tbate. That's true.

F*ck jjk, if you read the recent chapter then you'll understand that there has been a fight going on from a while in which sukuna is cooking one character after another. Then it's yuji damaging sukuna. Jjk on the verge of collapsing as the gege is himself confused how should he deal with sukuna, itadori beating sukuna(would fans except it) still jjk is peak for me but why are you comparing it with Tbate, one is the most popular manga . It's like you are comparing an off road bike with supersport bike and saying that supersport bike is better as it has more speed and justifying multiple perspectives. like jjk and deep inside you want TBATE to have characters development like jjk but tbate is tbate and jjk is jjk. . . It would be foolish if fan reads LOTM then expects this level mysteries and foreshadowing in others novels, and saying RI is not good as it has no deep mysteries and red flags. The problem was that tha fan wanted a cat to act like a monkey but both are different things.

it was an example :/ If you read my comment for 1 more second your would have read the part where i said "you have a gojo pfp," i was using jjk as an example to explain my point to him since obviously we have both watched it. I also said that jjk isnt my favorite anime and honestly I don't see anyone copying jjk on any level and getting away with it. So I definitely wouldn't want a novel trying to do that. Mysteries is way for the author to say Im going to leave this open for later, and forshadowing is just spoilers, neither actually affect the quality of the novel significantly. I'm going to take one thing here, and its that I expect things to be deeper than surface level, and taking a teen novel like this and expecting something like that is unreasonable, but I'm not going to give it a good review just because its expected that this will be mid.

You fool I have berserk pfp. It's Griffith not gojo, it seems your eyes are as far gone as your brain

King by birthright or by whatever else, he is still expected to act like a king. Saying that novel readers on average are smarter has to be some of the most egotistical and down right wrong opinion I have heard this month. Maybe I would agree with you if you said books, but definitely NOT novels, especially with 99% of these novels requiring zero brain power. Oppenheim is rated #93 of all time, so that's not even true. P.S. I expect better opinions from someone with a berserk pfp, but it looks like you like griffith too much so im not sure.

I don't want to interrupt between your conversation, but I must correct one thing. It's a dumb opinion to say 99% of novels like this don't require brainpower. I don't know how you categorized this, not that I care, but I assure you, this novel doesn't fall into your 99%. This novel offers a huge scope for brainstorming. If you have never felt that way, it means you never bothered to use your brain in the first place or never intended to, as you've already categorized it as not requiring brainpower, probably because the novel doesn't fit your taste. Who knows. And also, there's a whole dedicated timeline for him where he became the king of Decathen in case you missed it and how miserably it ended. Him not acting like a king is a crucial part of the story. But he definitely still has the instinctive dignity of a king, which you've missed as well.

What I'm saying is thet when novel readers read something, they look at tags and what is the novel about. We don't wanna waste our time as even the short novels cause 10+ hours to read, we see tags what was it about, oh... cultivation, mysteries and if the author made good story around these concepts then we are happy. We already expected what it could be . . While in movies, people watch them cuz it's out in the theater along with friends or they watch it cuz it's well rated or because of some actor. Everyone watches it and since everyone has their own perspective, hardly any movie gets 9+ IMBD. There are movies and anime with lower IMBD that I like and I genuinely think are good. But here every novel I think is good already has a 4.5 plus . . Its simple, you take 100 people on an expected journey and they become happy You take 100 random people on a journey, some of them liked it, others did not

If only people who had a guilty pleasure for comedy, reviewed comedy movies, they would be rated 10 on imdb, the reason why multiple perspectives are important in all things is to remove bias, A lot of novel readers are biased into liking certain things, because most novels copy off of each other. Obviously the ratings would be higher here due to that distinction.

He isn’t a King in the term you believe in, he’s a king of battle not politics and warfare. It’s stated that yes he lived at the top of whatever power system he used to live in and yes he was a “King” but comparing that to actual royalty is insane. He was probably more like a general in terms of what you’re thinking. Also I agree with ur other point actual books are way more brain intensive than novels lol. PS: comparing books to movies is dumb and is like comparing cheese and strawberries (don’t ask why I thought of those two things) it has no significance to the point of debate. They are two different lanes of entertainment. One relies on keeping the viewer engaged on the screen while also telling a story that has constant flow and energy. While books go more into detail and have a more rounded and grounded story that plays with emotions more. Not saying that either concept can be applied to each other just that it doesn’t prove anything. PPS: sorry for the comment bomb -_-

That's what I'm saying him Arthur was a duelist elected by council under the name of a king. Even if he acted like his "so called" king, then he would be no different than Argona/Indra. Now he's saying TBATE doesn't has character development like jjk, has comparing TBATE with most popular anime/manga on internet. I don't even wanna argue him, hes the most dumb guy I found here

if you didnt want to argue with me why did you say "F*ck him in the *ss. He has read too overpowered mc novels," you seriously have no chill, im not even trying to rage bait rn and your already mad XD

For most of my first argument I was saying how novels are usually rated to highly. So me comparing other things that are rated, would not be comparing unrelated things. No, all forms of entertainment are meant to keep viewers engaged or its not entertainment, i.e. just because you can watch pain dry for 3 hours doesn't make it a movie.

I’m curious. What is your favourite novel of all time? If you had to recommend 5 novels that you consider 5/5 which 5 would you recommend?